According to a post on VapingUnderground.com, someone sent an email to customer support at 528 Customs asking them for some advice on the Goon 1.5 RDA they just bought the day before. This person mentioned to 528 that they had just purchased the Goon and even after installing several builds, the ohms constantly jump around.
He confirmed to 528 that the posts screws are tight and the coils don’t wiggle around at all. The RDA was also tightened all the way down on the device and it was tested on multiple devices. So basically, so there should be no reason for the ohms to move around once they’ve been fired.
Brittani Starkey of 528 Customs responded with this…
She said “Have you tried it on a mech mod?”
She then followed up an hour later saying that her husband is the owner of 528 and the designer of the Goon. She said that the advice she gave was his suggestion and she said that it’s impossible for ohms to jump around on a mech mod. She said using it on a mech first will usually fix the issue.
I don’t even know what to say about this. I guess it goes to show that even vape product manufacturers have no clue about vaping sometimes.
First, to say that firing an atomizer on a mech mod will produce different results than a regulated mod makes no sense at all. Either device will fire the coils. The only difference is that on a mech you’re limited by the batteries. There’s nothing physically different from how the atomizer receives power from the battery.
Then to say that it’s impossible for ohms to jump around on a mech mod is totally clueless. It’s impossible to know that ohms are jumping around because mech mods don’t have screens that show you the resistance changing, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening. That’s equivalent to putting black tape over your check engine light in your car.
And to top it all off, someone posted the same issue on 528’s Instagram page. They were having issues with ohms jumping around. The owner responded condescendingly to this person saying that he already gave this person advice over email.
The owner thought it was the person from earlier but it wasn’t. He goes on to say that he’s been vaping for more than 4 years and that using an atomizer on a mech mod tends to fix voltage issues. He also states that the Goon 1.5 is the one of the safest RDAs on the market due to the materials and insulators they use.
I honestly can’t believe this is the advice the owner of an RDA manufacturing company gave to a customer. And he throws out the fact that he’s been vaping for more than 4 years, implying that he knows what he’s talking about.
I’m not trying to crap on the Goon, because it’s an amazing RDA, although I’ve seen lots of bad reviews of the new 1.5 version. But I wanted to cover this story just because this advice is not only terrible, but also dangerous.
I’ve experienced this issue with an atomizer in the past. If after making sure that everything is built correctly, tested with various builds and on various devices, and the issue still persists, it’s because there’s something wrong with the atomizer. It’s most likely that that there’s something wrong with the positive post or the 510 pin.
If the Goon 1.5 has some sort of shorting issue that’s causing the ohms to jump around, that could be extremely dangerous, especially on a mech mod. If the ohms jumped to below safe levels of the battery in a mech, that could hard short the battery and cause an explosion.
Seriously terrible advice. This might be an isolated issue, and not typical with the Goon 1.5 in general, but the advice they gave is so dangerous that I just had to talk about it.
528 Customs has since removed the Instagram thread and supposedly blocked everyone who commented on it, but the screenshots are on the Internet forever. And people are still commenting on other recent Instagram posts.
A call to report the fire came in around 4:20am with the person saying that smoke was coming out of the coffee shop. Firefighters responded and finally put the fire out around 11am.
The fire department stated that this building did not have a sprinkler system or fire detectors, which is not a requirement because this building was built in the 70’s.
The fire department released a press release stating that they have not been able to determine the case of the fire yet, but that fire patterns indicate that it originated in the northern part of the complex, which looks to me is not where VapeNW was located, but rather where several restaurants were.
VapeNW has stated that it was a total loss. The entire shop and their warehouse burned down, which means all orders that have not yet been shipped will not go out and they are also not able to process any returns or answer Help Desk tickets.
They are refunding all orders and are no longer taking orders online.
Nobody was hurt, but it’s sad news for VapeNW and for their customers. I’ve actually ordered from them several times because they always have really good prices and because they ship so fast. Hopefully they can get this all sorted out and get back in business in a new location soon.
They are also sharing their devices with groups of people which are causing worries of spreading hepatitis.
According to the school district board chairman, David Thompson, there’s no way for administrators to know what is being vaped, because there’s no smell. So they’ve made the decision to outright ban vaping on school grounds entirely, including vaping in their anti-tobacco free policies.
This is pretty scary. Oxycontin is such a dangerous and highly addictive drug. I’ve known Oxycontin addicts and their lives are not pretty. I would hate to see a young high school destroy their lives so early.
What also scary about inhaling oxycontin is that oxycontin is coated in a plastic polymer substance. That means these kids are inhaling heated particles of plastics.
So with all of that being said, I can see why schools would want to ban vaping if a lot of kids are actually vaping oxycontin in school.
But it sucks to punish the kids who are legitimately using vaping as an alternative to smoking.
So if they don’t ban it, what’s the answer? I really don’t know. If you have thoughts on this, please feel free to share.
The United States Foods and Drug Administration has a process that allows individuals and organizations to request that the FDA change their health policies through what’s called a citizen petition.
At any time, someone can file a citizen petition that asks the FDA to “issue, amend, or revoke a regulation or order.” The law also states that the FDA must respond to petitions within 150 days.
On May 17th, NJOY, the Vapor Technology Association, The Smoke-Free Alternatives Trade Association, Turning Point Brands, Nicopure Labs, Five Pans, Johnson Creek, and other businesses submitted a citizens petition asking for the FDA to provide clear guidance for vape manufacturers about how to submit premarket applications and also to extend compliance deadlines by 24 months.
If you read the petition on Regulations.gov, you’ll see the reasoning behind these requests. For example the petition points out that it’s now nearly a year after the FDA released the Draft PMTA Guidance on electronic cigarettes and in that time, we still have not received recommendations from the FDA on completing Pre-Market Tobacco Applications or substantial equivalence reports.
That’s a pretty solid reason if you ask me.
This isn’t your typical everyday online petition that the government brushes off and ignores. The citizen petition process is a formal process that the FDA must follow as defined in the Code of Federal Regulations.
With that said though, the FDA still has final say in whether or not the requests in the petition are granted. There was an empirical study that reviewed every citizen petition filed with the FDA between 2001 and 2010, so nine years of data. What they found is that the FDA granted 19% of petitions and denied 81%.
Also worth noting though is that most petitions are from pharmaceutical companies trying to delay generic brands from coming onto the market. So the success rate or denial rate might not reflect the chances that this new petition from NJOY might have.
So what can you do to help? Go to CASAA.org to find the call to action. You can submit comments on the petition on Regulations.gov until November 8th, 2017. In your comment, you can share your experience with vaping, talk about how long you’ve smoked and how vaping has helped you quit or reduce smoking, what your favorite flavors of e-liquid are and why flavors are important to you, and how the FDA deeming rule has changed your ability to buy vapor products.